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Prospect Camp- Day One
Posted by: Ben Wright on July 8, 2008 at 10:32PM EST

There's an art to watching prospect camp, or so I presume. I still haven't gotten the hang of it and it usually takes a day or two to get into the swing of things.

When the players hit the ice it's hard to know not just who to watch, but how to watch. With 30-odd players that you aren't overly familiar with on the ice everything is just a blur. Nameless numbers flying around.

So the first step is to get your hands on a roster with jersey numbers. If you plan to go this week you can print off this one or pick one up off of the front row of the bleachers. If there aren't any there bug the PR staff for one and tell them I put you up to it.

So now you have a roster with numbers. Good. Where do you go from there?

Pick a few players to watch. There's no way you're going to get a read on anyone, so don't even try. The professional scouts that are watching won't even form impressions of all the players in one day, so don't worry about it.

There are two easy ways to pick who to watch.

1. Pick a few names and numbers from the list (Bogosian, Esposito, Holzapfel, Machacek and Kulda are good starts).
2. Ignore the list and watch everyone for a few minutes to see who jumps out, then watch those players.

I went mostly with the second method today and different players jumped out for different reasons. Here are the various thoughts that popped into my head as I watched the first 30 minutes without regard to a player's status.

  • Zach Redmond (#56) bears a physical resemblance to Mark Popovic on the ice. I didn't see it when I talked to him afterwards but it was there on the ice. Dan Kamal agreed, so either I'm not crazy or both of us are.
  • Zach Bogosian (#44) is an absolute beast. He came out hitting and man-handled everyone he went up against in a drill that pitted players against each other one-on-one in a puck possession drill along the boards (Thanks for the video Tom). Some players tried to steal the puck. Bogosian just rubbed out his man and didn't worry too much about the puck. Your man can't play the puck if he's on his backside on the ice right? (Alex Ovechkin notwithstanding). After Bogosian took out Matt Siddall one fan proclaimed that he was 'already in love' with Zach.
  • Scott Bartlett, who is a non-drafted invitee from Middlebury in the NESCAC (New England Small College Athletic Conference- I had to look it up) is a quick skater with an even quicker release.
  • Myles Stoesz knows how to have fun on the ice. In a shootout drill that determined which of the two squads would skate mountains Stoesz pulled off a 360 move that resulted in a goal. Myles had 4 goals last season to go with 291 penalty minutes as a Gwinnett Gladiator, so let's just say scoring isn't what got him drafted.
  • Chris Carrazzi (drafted in the sixth round by the Thrashers this year) covers the net well and has a better than expected glove given that it's supposed to be his weakness.

Other news and tidbits form the first day of camp:

  • 32 players are on the roster but only 30 skated today. Dannick Paquette came down with a bad stomach flu and since he was only going to be here for three days he won't be hitting the ice. He's leaving for Slovakia this week for a three-week mini-camp with his old junior coach Clem Jodoin. The other missing skater was Chad Denny whose gear was misplaced by the airline. It arrived late this afternoon and he expects to be on the ice tomorrow morning.
  • Joe Guilmet, the Thrashers' assistant equipment manager, was in mid-season form as he performed equipment repairs on the fly for players who were breaking in new gear or using equipment for the first time in a little while.
  • The stick rack had a group of sticks with a name stamp on them that read 'V. Saponari'. That's not going to do much good when Vinny and Vic play together at Boston University next season.

There are still a few lingering questions that need to be cleared up this week- what is Zach Bogosian's nickname (Bogo? Bogy? Bogs? Something else?) and how does Riley Holzapfel pronounce his last name?

So how did the first day go overall?

Well, Zach Bogosian easily stole the show. Four TV crews showed p this afternoon and they were there to see two players- Bogosian and local boy Vinny Saponari. Bogosian handled himself well in front of the cameras and made an early impression on head coach John Anderson who called him the best player on the ice. Not bad for the youngest kid on the ice. The third overall pick in this year's draft won't even turn 18 until next week. When the head coach of the parent club comes out of the gate praising him you know it bodes well for his future with the team.

For is part Bogosian told TV crews that he's looking forward to competing for a roster spot in the fall and that he's going to do everything he can to make it hard for the Thrashers to send him back to Peterborough (he's too young to play in the AHL or ECHL). Bogosian is one of the most physically mature players at the camp and might be the most talented as well. That's a dangerous combination for anyone that has to compete with him for a roster spot in September.

In other news, I caught up with Niklas Lasu and Zach Redmond after the day's on-ice activities today. They were the only two of this year's seven draft picks that I hadn't met yet and I wanted to find out a bit more about them.

Lasu is a Swedish forward who is probably a bit bigger than his listed size of 5-11, 180 lbs. This is his first visit to the US and he's looking forward to seeing the city. His first impressions? Everything is big and it's really hot.

I asked Lasu to describe is style of play for those of us who haven't had the pleasure of seeing him play.

"Well..." he said in his thickly accented English. "I like to hit people."

Nice.

"I like to make my teammates better and make it hard for the other players."

Even though he had 53 points in 41 games for Frolunda's junior team this past season he doesn't see himself as a scorer. He's a defensive specialist and a pest who models himself after underappreciated Bruin PJ Axelsson (who happens to be one of my all-time favorite role players) and Dallas Star Joel Lundqvist. Lasu doesn't know any of the current Swedish Thrashers (I don't know why I thought he would but I still asked) but is well aware of Toby Enstrom's success. Lasu will make the jump to Frolunda's second division senior team this year and he's excited about playing against grown men instead of other junior-aged players. They're bigger targets.

Zach Redmond is a smooth-skating defenseman who likes to rush the puck.

"I pass more than I shoot but I like to jump up," he told me.

When I told him that John Anderson's philosophy is that all of his defensemen have the green light to jump into the play if they have a chance to score his eyes lit up.

"That sounds great to me."

Redmond was born in Houston but moved to Michigan when he was about two. He's been there ever since and will be a sophomore at Ferris State next season. He's very happy with how his freshman year went (6G, 13A and 19PTS in 37 games) and he's expecting to play an even larger role next season. His coach has told him he'll get plenty of ice-time if he shows up to play and there's no doubt that Redmond is up for the challenge.

And that's it for day one. I'll be back tomorrow with news from day two during the day if I can find some desk space to use.

(22) Comments
Posted by: Greg on July 8, 2008 10:47PM EST
Ben,

You are getting me all excited. I am getting the hockey bug!!! The season needs to hurry up and get here!!!

Posted by: sal on July 8, 2008 11:20PM EST
awesome writeup, ben! "i like to hit people." cool.

Posted by: Mountainboy on July 8, 2008 11:41PM EST
Ben, thanks for all the great work. A very bright spot in a somewhat dismal offseason after a season to rival Europe's Dark Ages. Were it possible, Id buy you a beer someplace. Thanks for the writeups Ben

Posted by: Anonymous on July 8, 2008 11:53PM EST
So the thrashers have a total lack of offense and they let Haydar and Krog get away with out a fight well good thing they signed Bolton to make up for Hossa, Holik, Dupuis, Recchi loss in goals

Posted by: jeff on July 9, 2008 12:22AM EST
Shut the hell up Anonymous! What are we talking about here? Prospect camp, that's what. Stop your whining or start your own damn blog so all you naysayers can bitch and moan. I'm sick of you guys. I've heard nothing but the same crap over and over again from you guys since July 1. It's getting old. Does DW and ASG suck? Probably so, but how many times do we have to say it?! If you hate DW and ASG, do something about it! Tell them they suck. Don't tell me they suck 100 times over the course of the day as we try to discuss the merits of Hainsey and certain prospects. Just shut the hell up!

Posted by: Warrior Parent on July 9, 2008 12:46AM EST
Holzapfel try it as " Hole zap full "

Posted by: true blue on July 9, 2008 8:02AM EST
To: Jeff

AMEN, that crap, how ever true it may be, does get old really quick!

Posted by: h on July 9, 2008 8:38AM EST
Great update Ben.......Let's take the top 4 frontline guys and release Larsen, Slater, Boulton and White.......yuck......four completely unproductive front line guys.....well, at least we can fight......ugh.....here's praying for Bogosian and a couple of others to make the big club so there is at least something to watch this year......Ben, keep up the great reporting.

Posted by: Sam on July 9, 2008 9:21AM EST
You know, anonymous, you don't know jack about this franchise's history with players if you think Krog and Haydar haven't had a chance. Krog has been up and down with 2 or 3 NHL teams. He's a great AHL guy, but he'll be a career AHL guy. Haydar's like a leaf on the wind in the NHL. Small guys can make it in the NHL but they've at least got to have more tools in their pocket than Haydar does. ..ie great speed, low center of gravity, muscle...something.

So, not only is your whining obnoxious, you don't know what you're talking about.

Bogosian's going to be fun to watch this season. Your enthusiasm is contagious, Ben. Love it. Thanks for being our eyes.

Posted by: heyoh on July 9, 2008 10:46AM EST
Ben,
Do you know what the story is on Daultan Leveille and why he isn't at camp?

Posted by: heyoh on July 9, 2008 11:02AM EST
never mind I just read from an earlier post that he will miss the draft.


Posted by: Nina on July 9, 2008 11:38AM EST
I am from Massena, NY and have to say I am very excited and I hope Bogo makes the roster!!
I spoke with his Uncle the other day and the whole area is buzzing.
CAN'T WAIT FOR OCTOBER!!

Posted by: Matt on July 9, 2008 11:44AM EST
People are entitled to voice their frustrations about this dismal team too. We're all Thrashers fans and we want this team to succeed, don't forget that. All of us want the team to be better, but that doesn't mean we have to take we get and like it. As a fan, I feel slapped around by this franchise for how poorly they've performed from the front office to the ice. Don't expect me to smile and take the beating. Unfortunately, there's a lot more going on to be upset about than there is to be happy about. I'm happy our 17 year old 1st round pick is showing promise and I was excited when we drafted him, but this in no way makes up for the dreadful off-season we're having. I will also add that I think Hainsey will help out a lot more than people are giving him credit for and provide a solid contribution on the blueline and take a lot of pressure off of Toby's narrow shoulders. At least the people complaining have a point though, what's there to be so optimistic about? We were in a position financially to turn the whole ship around in one offseason, yet here we are looking at a team that could (and probably will) be even worse than last year's pathetic squad. For Pete's sake, we're UNDER the minimum of cap space. I'm not sure if it's an unwillingness to spend money or the fact that nobody wants to come here, but either way, I hang that squarely on ownership's shoulders.

OK, here's some optimism, I think our defense will be much better next year with the additions of Bogosian and Hainsey. Hopefully, that can translate to a better transistion game, less time spent in our zone, obviously less goals against and more opportunities for the defense to contribute offensively providing a more balanced (read: not ALWAYS #17) scoring attack. Perhaps that's the plan all along. Trust me, nobody would be happier with me being wrong about this than me, but I just don't see the move we've made improving the team all that much. However, cheerleaders don't win games, players, coaches, and smart GMs do.

Posted by: Paminski on July 9, 2008 12:56PM EST
I keep seeing comments about Boulton getting resigned. Though I support that, I don't see any news bits related to that and he is still not listed in the roster.

Posted by: JW on July 9, 2008 1:36PM EST
In reference to Boulton. I think the team has taken the action items to keep everything to themselves. They don't know how to share with the other kids in the sandbox. That's why everyone dislikes us so much.

Posted by: DC on July 9, 2008 1:53PM EST
Boulton was resigned for 7.8 mil for 1 yr. , thus getting us to the minimum cap.

Posted by: secreast on July 9, 2008 2:25PM EST
going to go ahead and agree with matt up there...

"Unfortunately, there's a lot more going on to be upset about than there is to be happy about."

i feel the same way, i cant exactly cheer for a product that i know is still broken. Instead of our builders fixing it with superglue, they fix it with elmers cheep glue...and yes i just compared our sh*t players to elmers. The product is like one giant ball of glue and random parts that dont work together...isnt that cute, u c what i just did there..ye one big metaphor thats right.....

not going to feel comfortable in a building that is due for collapse...u guys like that one better...ill stfu now and maybe i can get some people to say thanku for stopping

Posted by: Peter on July 9, 2008 3:09PM EST
If no one complains it continues to suck. To many thrasher fans have turned a blind eye to this mess, and what has that achieved a team with no chance of picking up a good free agent, a poor core of players in the system and nothing to trade that won't bankrupt the team for years to come. (Kovy is gone people so is Kari)
It is easy to say everything is going to be ok and leave Donny alone but we won't be able to keep our team that way. It has already started the move the thrashers to another makrket threat . But hockey can and will survive in Atlanta if it is a good product.
It is not my place or anyone elses to tell the owners how much to spend but how they spend the money we give them is a diffrent story. I hope the owners do what ever it takes to make a profit on the thrashers but this is not the way the team has got to grow in these bad years and not get worse. All these years on the bottom and all these great draft picks and the thrashers have two star out all that.
If the owners hire a new GM the fans will give them another chance. If the owners stay with these losers GM and front office then the team will only get worse. Don it giving the owners money and future away to save his job for one more year.
SO what it comes down to is Kovy won't stay if this is what the team is going to be so make your pick keep Kovy and Kari or keep Don Waddell it is that simple.

Posted by: scott on July 9, 2008 3:12PM EST
any prospect GMs at this camp??We sure need a UPGRADE at this spot.

Posted by: scott on July 9, 2008 3:30PM EST
when are some of these trades ive heard of gonna happen to get to the cap. i read bad teams like the thrashers have to over pay now for trades just like free agents. i hope they bring in some good young talent for the future. more then likley the thrashers arent making the playoffs anyway and kovy will be gone, and the rebuilding will begin. new front office guys and all that just like the maple leafs for example.

Posted by: JW on July 9, 2008 3:47PM EST
Here you go Scott. Here is your young "talent" signed.

The Atlanta Thrashers have signed unrestricted free agent forwards Junior Lessard, Grant Stevenson and Mike Hoffman, according to Executive Vice President and General Manager Don Waddell. As per team policy, terms of the deals were not disclosed.

Posted by: Thrashers fan from Philly on July 11, 2008 12:29PM EST
Don't miss taking a look at Finnish player Niclas Lucenius #49 on his Camp jersey. He is powerful and has a great ability to put the puck in the net he's not flashy just simply gets the job done. While your at it take a look at his teammate Jonas Enlund #41. These boys are exceptional players!

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